I agree with Tim Lloyd. I think all this anonymous posting is terrible and has to stop.
Napoleon Bonaparte
Whoever 'Tim Lloyd' is (the artist or not), he should understand that in these deeply straightened times, where our economy is fast collapsing in front of our very eyes, that it offends people greatly to see money being wasted on facile, arrogant, ill-thought-out schemes like this one. Half a million pounds is a huge amount of money to throw away on something so pointless. Tim Lloyd, whatever your interest in this project is, you are completely missing the point.
Tracey Sheridan
Back to my previous point. People are big enough to slate this project but are they big enough to state their name???
Read Down!
The answer is - NO!!!
Tim Lloyd
This is an absolute disgrace. Those who selected this had the opportunity to use Art to lift the spirits of people in a very bleak recession. Instead they have thrown that opportunity away and play elitist intellectual games. This project is a complete waste of hard-earned tax payers' money and has zero relevance to the Olympic Games' ideals.
Those who fiddle while Rome burns deserve the wrath of the public.
David Dent - Equine Artist
If dragging an island about is art then what isn't? I think that THIS A GROSS MISUSE OF £500,000 OF PUBLIC MONEY which should be scrapped in the light of the current economic circumstances.
Anonymous
Actually no I’m not. I am not a friend of the Artist.
I cannot help but think that some these comments are coming from people who applied to become members of the selection panel and were not successful or artists that submitted ideas that were not successful.
Tim Lloyd
Just done some surfing and I'm not so sure now!
David Scott
I understand these concerns about the political implications of the story this project tells, but I prefer to wait and see whether God or the Devil is in the detail.
But am I right in thinking that some of you actually believe this bloke's discovered an island and is going to bring it all the way to Britain? Is't that a little naive?
David Scott
I like the Aston Martin idea.
Do you need navigator?
In the meantime, as I just can't bring sport into my practice, can anyone lend me a tenner for some materials?
David Handford, Post Office Records
I agree with a few comments about this work, stinking of colonialism, warped environmentalism and arrogance*. Alex Harvey you may read this, and being an open minded artist, strongly agree with these sentiments, whilst knowingly feeling confident the concept will generate debate for the good of the people (see above*). No harm in debating, I agree. But Alex, you have missed a greater more interesting environmental/cultural debate here. What you should have written in your proposal instead of transporting dirt from a newly discovered Norwegian island, costing hundreds of thousands of pounds and maybe a few aches and pains, dirty hands, notoriety and ego inflation. For a fraction of the money you could of used all the top soil form the Hackney marshes football pitches (soon to be car parks for the Olympic site) and maybe the soil from the now bulldozed community allotments that are apart of the now, you guessed it, Olympic site. Now thats a project which would create discourse between the people. A project closer to home, don't you agree?
androgynous
Oh good for you, Tim Lloyd, friend of the artist, that you can wave away all concerns about the nature of this project and what it represents. The problem is that it isn't truly about who we are and where we come from. It's about disturbing a very delicate and precious environment, for the sake of carting it around the SW of England all in the name of Art. Shocking and pointless. And the government should prevent this happening. How DARE Alex presume to undertake a project like this in the name of art, whilst destroying the very environment he should be protecting at all costs. OUTRAGEOUS.
Paul James Harrington, Bristol - happy now, Tim Lloyd?
OK 'P J' (who again didn't put his full name so doesn't need to comment like it on me!!!)
It hasn't escaped my mind that this is a public forum open to all points of view but I though someone had to stand up for this idea. Of course there are issues surrounding this project but this is more than just tugging dirt around the South West it is about realising who we are and where we come from.
I am glad that panel made this decision and would support them all the way. All of the other ideas are great but from what I have read on here they just aren't adventurous enough.
Good Luck Alex!!!
Tim Lloyd
It's obviously escaped 'Tim's' notice that this is a public forum, and that people are entitled and called on to express their view, and anonymously if they so wish, and despite criticising others for not putting their names, he declines to leave his surname. What an idiot! Even more idiotic is this decision. So, once again, Britain rules the waves. Not a great message to send out to the world in this time of great strife and whilst we live under the major threat of terrorism.
PJ Harrington
Can I just say that I think its a great project!!!
I get it completely!
I would just like to say well done to Alex and I wish him all the best. I think that all of the people that leave comments as Anonymous should be big enough to stand up and actually put their name in the box as they are putting comments that are un-called for!!!
Well done again. I wish you a huge amount of luck with this great project!
I can't wait to see it happen!!!!
Tim
on what basis is Nowhereisland art? I thought this whole scheme was about art. Or have I missed the point entirely. If so, silly me. But I don't think I'm being silly when I say I can't believe that this project won. It's not about art, nor even about the environment. It's about annexing land that doesn't belong to you, and claiming it for your own, doing what you want with it, using it for your own selfish ends (with £500k in your back pocket) whilst ruining a precious Arctic island (however small), and then just dumping it back once you've finished with it, with no care as to the damage inflicted. Outrageous that the Arts Council in general can allow this to go ahead. I wonder what Greenpeace will make of it...
Anonymous
The 2012 Olympics are/were supposed to be SUSTAINABLE. What is the carbon-footprint of this "Nowhereisland" project & has it been submitted to the Commission for Sustainability, set up to ensure that all aspects of the Olympic Games met the stated criteria? If this energy-squandering exercise has been approved as "sustainable" then the whole process is a farce.Furthermore, the artist is deluded if he thinks he is legitimately supporting any campaign for raising awareness of the effects of climate change.
Dinah Ellis
Nowhereisland isn't just a load of old tosh, it's also dangerous tosh as it's sending so many wrong messages that it's in danger of causing a major political scandal once the main parties get wind of the fact that the Arts Council is funding, with £500k, the removal of part of the Arctic environment, for no 'artistic' reason, but to tell us all how rubbish it is that global warming is on it's way. Please, SPARE US. Why wasn't a properly 'artistic' project selected - the 'winning' project seems to fail on so many levels. I shouldn't be surprised, though, given the quality of the judging panels. It will remain a mystery why the Arts Council thought it a good idea to let people put themselves forward to be on the judging panels, as opposed to selecting eminent artists to select the winner. A poor show all round.
Anonymous
It's London (the world's most cosmopolitan city). It's 2012 (not 1948). It's the Olympic Games (a celebration of international community). And in Britain's cultural presentation there is not one Black or Asian project. Who needs the BNP when we have the Arts Council and its cronies supporting an agenda of alienation?
Anonymous
What undiluted rubbish. How can this puerile nonsense be presented to the world as representative of British artistic achievement - or is it a measure of the depth to which our culture has sunk into the morass of ignorance and ugliness? The truth is that it is time to stop pretending that the emperor has clothes and boot out the pseudo-intellectuals who perpetuate these perpetrations,
I agree with Tim Lloyd. I think all this anonymous posting is terrible and has to stop.
Whoever 'Tim Lloyd' is (the artist or not), he should understand that in these deeply straightened times, where our economy is fast collapsing in front of our very eyes, that it offends people greatly to see money being wasted on facile, arrogant, ill-thought-out schemes like this one. Half a million pounds is a huge amount of money to throw away on something so pointless. Tim Lloyd, whatever your interest in this project is, you are completely missing the point.
Back to my previous point. People are big enough to slate this project but are they big enough to state their name???
Read Down!
The answer is - NO!!!
This is an absolute disgrace. Those who selected this had the opportunity to use Art to lift the spirits of people in a very bleak recession. Instead they have thrown that opportunity away and play elitist intellectual games. This project is a complete waste of hard-earned tax payers' money and has zero relevance to the Olympic Games' ideals.
Those who fiddle while Rome burns deserve the wrath of the public.
If dragging an island about is art then what isn't? I think that THIS A GROSS MISUSE OF £500,000 OF PUBLIC MONEY which should be scrapped in the light of the current economic circumstances.
Actually no I’m not. I am not a friend of the Artist.
I cannot help but think that some these comments are coming from people who applied to become members of the selection panel and were not successful or artists that submitted ideas that were not successful.
Just done some surfing and I'm not so sure now!
I understand these concerns about the political implications of the story this project tells, but I prefer to wait and see whether God or the Devil is in the detail.
But am I right in thinking that some of you actually believe this bloke's discovered an island and is going to bring it all the way to Britain? Is't that a little naive?
I like the Aston Martin idea.
Do you need navigator?
In the meantime, as I just can't bring sport into my practice, can anyone lend me a tenner for some materials?
I agree with a few comments about this work, stinking of colonialism, warped environmentalism and arrogance*. Alex Harvey you may read this, and being an open minded artist, strongly agree with these sentiments, whilst knowingly feeling confident the concept will generate debate for the good of the people (see above*). No harm in debating, I agree. But Alex, you have missed a greater more interesting environmental/cultural debate here. What you should have written in your proposal instead of transporting dirt from a newly discovered Norwegian island, costing hundreds of thousands of pounds and maybe a few aches and pains, dirty hands, notoriety and ego inflation. For a fraction of the money you could of used all the top soil form the Hackney marshes football pitches (soon to be car parks for the Olympic site) and maybe the soil from the now bulldozed community allotments that are apart of the now, you guessed it, Olympic site. Now thats a project which would create discourse between the people. A project closer to home, don't you agree?
Oh good for you, Tim Lloyd, friend of the artist, that you can wave away all concerns about the nature of this project and what it represents. The problem is that it isn't truly about who we are and where we come from. It's about disturbing a very delicate and precious environment, for the sake of carting it around the SW of England all in the name of Art. Shocking and pointless. And the government should prevent this happening. How DARE Alex presume to undertake a project like this in the name of art, whilst destroying the very environment he should be protecting at all costs. OUTRAGEOUS.
OK 'P J' (who again didn't put his full name so doesn't need to comment like it on me!!!)
It hasn't escaped my mind that this is a public forum open to all points of view but I though someone had to stand up for this idea. Of course there are issues surrounding this project but this is more than just tugging dirt around the South West it is about realising who we are and where we come from.
I am glad that panel made this decision and would support them all the way. All of the other ideas are great but from what I have read on here they just aren't adventurous enough.
Good Luck Alex!!!
It's obviously escaped 'Tim's' notice that this is a public forum, and that people are entitled and called on to express their view, and anonymously if they so wish, and despite criticising others for not putting their names, he declines to leave his surname. What an idiot! Even more idiotic is this decision. So, once again, Britain rules the waves. Not a great message to send out to the world in this time of great strife and whilst we live under the major threat of terrorism.
Can I just say that I think its a great project!!!
I get it completely!
I would just like to say well done to Alex and I wish him all the best. I think that all of the people that leave comments as Anonymous should be big enough to stand up and actually put their name in the box as they are putting comments that are un-called for!!!
Well done again. I wish you a huge amount of luck with this great project!
I can't wait to see it happen!!!!
on what basis is Nowhereisland art? I thought this whole scheme was about art. Or have I missed the point entirely. If so, silly me. But I don't think I'm being silly when I say I can't believe that this project won. It's not about art, nor even about the environment. It's about annexing land that doesn't belong to you, and claiming it for your own, doing what you want with it, using it for your own selfish ends (with £500k in your back pocket) whilst ruining a precious Arctic island (however small), and then just dumping it back once you've finished with it, with no care as to the damage inflicted. Outrageous that the Arts Council in general can allow this to go ahead. I wonder what Greenpeace will make of it...
The 2012 Olympics are/were supposed to be SUSTAINABLE. What is the carbon-footprint of this "Nowhereisland" project & has it been submitted to the Commission for Sustainability, set up to ensure that all aspects of the Olympic Games met the stated criteria? If this energy-squandering exercise has been approved as "sustainable" then the whole process is a farce.Furthermore, the artist is deluded if he thinks he is legitimately supporting any campaign for raising awareness of the effects of climate change.
Nowhereisland isn't just a load of old tosh, it's also dangerous tosh as it's sending so many wrong messages that it's in danger of causing a major political scandal once the main parties get wind of the fact that the Arts Council is funding, with £500k, the removal of part of the Arctic environment, for no 'artistic' reason, but to tell us all how rubbish it is that global warming is on it's way. Please, SPARE US. Why wasn't a properly 'artistic' project selected - the 'winning' project seems to fail on so many levels. I shouldn't be surprised, though, given the quality of the judging panels. It will remain a mystery why the Arts Council thought it a good idea to let people put themselves forward to be on the judging panels, as opposed to selecting eminent artists to select the winner. A poor show all round.
It's London (the world's most cosmopolitan city). It's 2012 (not 1948). It's the Olympic Games (a celebration of international community). And in Britain's cultural presentation there is not one Black or Asian project. Who needs the BNP when we have the Arts Council and its cronies supporting an agenda of alienation?
What undiluted rubbish. How can this puerile nonsense be presented to the world as representative of British artistic achievement - or is it a measure of the depth to which our culture has sunk into the morass of ignorance and ugliness? The truth is that it is time to stop pretending that the emperor has clothes and boot out the pseudo-intellectuals who perpetuate these perpetrations,
Awesome project, and a worthy winner.